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April 8, 2004

 

Board of Directors

Summit Hill Association

District 16 Planning Council

 

Members Present: Barrera, Breymeier, Brostrom, Clapp-Smith, Dobson, Flahaven, Hardy, Harrison, Konstan, Odman, Orman Awe, O’Toole, Rathman, Siekmeier, Smith, Wichman,

Zoltai

 

Guests Present: Alberts, Chen, McClure, Nimmer

 

Members Absent:  Linder, Preus, Reding-Galarneault, Sanders

 

Clapp-Smith called the Meeting to order at 7:00 PM

 

1.                  Additions to the Agenda: There were no additions to the agenda

 

2.                  Approval of March Meeting minutes

Siekmeier made a revision to the March Meeting minutes, Pedestrian Safety and Traffic Calming Committee report, paragraph two. 

Members of the St. Paul Legislative Delegation have previously opposed increasing the speed limit on 35E,  and supported maintaining all conditions set by the 1984 Federal District court decision.  Rep. John Lesch published Tim Wilkin’s email … introduced.  SHA will send a letter to the Saint Paul Delegation.

 

Correct the misspelling of John Lesch.

 

A motion was made to approve the March Meeting minutes as amended.  The motion was seconded and approved.

 

3.                  District Council Policy Session – Position Statement

Clapp-Smith provided an update on the meeting with the city in regards to the role of district councils.  A letter stating the wide variance of per capita funding each district receives was distributed.

 

A number of questions were raised regarding the base operating costs of districts, whether the current system is fair; or should it be based on the number of constituents represented or level of poverty.  The councils do not agree which method of determination is equitable.  Our council is very small and we would loose lots of funding if based on the number of constituents or poverty level and would be hard to maintain.  The city does not seem too eager to change the current formula. 

 

Hardy asked how districts were originally established?  Some areas already had existing organizations and they were left as is, other areas did not have any council and boundaries were established.

 

Barreras asked why these changes have been proposed at this time.  Distribution of base funds is not equitable per capita.  Base funding per capita ranges from over $6 per person  to slightly over $1 per person.  Neighborhoods with larger populations and lower per capita funding do not feel that the funding is fair.

 

The diversity and low income of certain districts makes it more difficult to reach out to the community and get citizen participation.  The city is also questioning the district council’s ability to accommodate and represent the diverse neighborhoods. 

 

O’Toole stated that Chuck Repke issued a letter about diversity and representation and fairness.  There was nothing more said after one person stood up and said how dare you criticize our organizations when the planning commissions shows no diversity.  O’Toole believes that the real issue is financial support not diversity.  Low income neighborhoods are getting funding from other sources such as grants that our neighborhood does not have access to.  Many neighborhoods would love the development that is happening in our neighborhood.  These neighborhoods do not understand our opposition; they believe this would be a great problem to have.  However, this opposition and monitoring of development costs our district lots of time and money.

 

Flahaven stated that there is a base-funding amount provided to districts.  Has a minimum amount to run each district council been calculated?

 

Policy restricting the amount of time for opposition should be put on the city council agenda.

City council proposes change either to split larger districts or merge smaller ones.  District council’s provide a lot of service but we were not established to provide social services.

 

Summit Hill Association’s position is to maintain a base amount to operate and the minimum amount identified and calculated, keep our district intact, and focus on increasing the diversity of our board.  Districts will need to focus on tenant, minority participation in order to address diversity issues.

 

A motion was made to approve our position.  The motion was seconded and approved.

A summary of the services provided by the district councils should be sent to the city council to show the representation that they provide to the communities.

A position statement will be written and sent to the city.

 

4.                  Vote on forwarding District 16 Plan to the City of St. Paul

Clapp-smith provided the status of the District 16 Plan.  The current plan was updated to include comments made at the most recent meeting.  No additional comments have been included since its issuance. Comments from the meeting with Stolpestead regarding restrictions on height and development were not included.  He will have his say at the public hearing to make comments.  After that time the city will take the comments under advisements and make changes. 

 

Brian Wengers comments have also not been included.  His comments were distributed at the meeting.  He wants the plan to be laid over to include his comments before sending them off to the city.  Flahaven stated that it is inappropriate to take board time to discuss one person’s point of view.

 

There were discussions on limiting the amount of bars and entertainment license on Grand Ave. We do not know if we can do this.  We are looking into this. Harrison said it makes little difference since there are no more liquor licenses to be awarded in the city of Saint Paul, which limits the number of licenses issued, citywide.  There are no more additional licenses currently available. 

 

Smith asked Clapp-Smith to share the city’s comments regarding overlay district.  The overlay district would follow at the heels of the plan.  Thune has supported us looking at Grand Ave. as an overlay district.  There are a couple of height formulas and other restrictions included in the district plan that would be heading towards an overly district. Unfortunately, no matter what is written still needs to be accepted by the city, which will essentially rewrite the plan.  This means that significant changes can be made. GABA helped put this together.  Some support the efforts already taken.

 

Dobson brought up the recommendation of the 25,000 s.f. maximum for new development with a total of 75,000 s.f. on three levels.  Larry Soderholm issued a memo of examples of buildings along grand that are about the same size.

 

Enforcement of underground parking is in question.  There needs to be some legal changes in the code in order for the plan to be enforceable.

 

Item No. 2 (on Wenger’s list) is already covered by our 25,000 s.f. restriction, which is a reasonable size based on the other buildings along Grand of that size.

 

A question was raised to add general language in the background sections about the concern about bars and entertainment in the neighborhood.  Some behavior displayed by their patrons is not in concert with a residential neighborhood. These inappropriate behaviors will ultimate affect the businesses along Grand due to the deterioration and destruction of property.

 

Flahaven made a motion to adopt the plan. The motion was seconded.  The vote was unanimous, with one abstaining.

 

5.                  Use of Roberts Rules in SHA Board meeting

In interest of keeping the meeting on time, this item was deferred to the end of the meeting and will be taken up at the next meeting if not enough time to discuss.

 

6.         Review of Board policy on e-mail use

Rules regarding the use of email addresses were read.  Andy Driscol stated that in the interest of citizen participation that email addresses should be as accessible as phone number. 

The board is at odds about how to handle the distribution of email addresses.  Some people believe it should be public other believe there is too much access and could include viruses that could cause bid problems.

A motion was made to hold over this discussion until the next meeting.

 

7.         Committee Reports

A.      Zoning and Land Use Committee

An entertainment license for Bonfire was granted with a 6-month review.  They are still hashing out how legal this is.  Originally, the license was to have a 12-month review.  One of the other conditions recommendated by LIEP required Bonfire to keep the doors closed at 5 pm for noise and smoke.   Through Dave Thune’s negotiations, the license resolution was changed from 12 months to 6 months and the door closing from 5 p.m. to 7 p.m.  No one really understood what the deal was.   

 

The city should be notified immediately of any violations of the license.  Do not wait until the renewal, because by then it is too late.  Bonfire’s license will be back on next week’s Council agenda.  The people on Lincoln Ave. are shocked at how little there was done to listen to there concerns.

 

There will be a special Zoning and Land Use meeting Thurs April 22, 2004 to discuss variances requirements for a 16-unit garage at St. Albans and Summit.

 

B.     Communications Committee

Flahaven stated that Linder has been working hard on getting the website up and on line.  It will be up and going by this Friday.  There will also be training on its use.  All information posted on the website must first go through the assigned committee member.  Committee members instead of just staff can update information. 

There is some concern among committee members regarding the ability for anyone other then trained staff to modify the website.  Access should be restricted.

They want to establish a budget to market the website.  There is a list of ideas of how to promote the website, such as a sign in front of Linwood Community Center. Anyone with ideas should forward them to Flahaven.

The committee is also trying to get peoples email addresses to send information.

 

C.           District 16 Plan Committee

Clapp-Smith provided a brief update on the District Plan.  The committee has not made any additional changes to the plan, other then grammatical.  The plan is at the city being reviewed for comments, which could be a long process.  We have included a summary as a part of the plan, encouraging them to use ours as a guide and a better idea of our priority issues.  However, the city will ultimately write their own.

 

D.           Environment Committee

Saturday May 8, 2004 is the neighborhood cleanup.  Volunteers are need for the neighborhood garage sale and for the clean up.   We will not accept brush this year.  Ramsey County is going to start taking brush for free.

 

E.     House Tour Committee

Moving along well.  Antique show is still up in the air.

 

F.         Pedestrian Safety and Traffic Calming Committee

The committee has not meet since the last board meeting.  They have receive the costs to produce the 20 is plenty signs.  The neighborhood sign has also been presented.  The group wants to move forward with the production of the signs.  If anyone has any comments regarding the design or color of the sign let Siekmeier know he has only a month before it goes into production.

 

8.  GABA Report

No GABA report was provided.

 

9.   SARPA Presentation

Current President, Adis Neiman-Noonan made a short presentation about the controversy between the Mac/Groveland Neighborhood, SARPA and St. Thomas University re the razing of houses for a university expansion.

 

10. Executive Director’s Report:

 

Wants to redesign the Summit Hill News letter.  As new person to the district, Roy believes it needs it.

There also may be holes in distribution list, which needs to be updated. 

 

11.  Treasurer’s Report:

Brostrom made a quick treasurers report. Any outstanding issues have been reconciled by Bialles.  The discrepancy was due to the lag in receiving the funds from the city.

An audit will start in April.  There is a form that SHA needs to fill out prior to meeting with the auditors. 

 

12.  Old Business/New Business/Announcements:

No time was left for any new comments

 

13.  Adjournment:

A motion was made to adjourn the meeting at 8:55 P.M. The motion received a second and passed unanimously.

 

Next meeting will be held Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 7:00 P.M. at the Linwood Community Center Meeting room.

 

Minutes recorded by Deborah Rathman, Secretary